How might the categories for race actually contribute to systemic and idealogical racism? Do racial categories accurately classify persons at a biological level?  Does placing individuals in groups or a categories have any Biblical grounding?  We discuss these questions and more with Dr. Elizabeth (Lisa) Sung, who is a Systematic Theologian and a Spiritual Director.  We also discussed Dr. Sung's journey and experience in spiritual direction.  We hope you enjoy the conversation. 

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