What has shifted in pastoring over the last few decades?  Why is that many pastors seem burn-out, falling out, or quitting all together?  How can pastors not just survive, but thrive in vocational ministry?  How can pastors become whole people?  We had a conversation around these questions and more with Dr. Tremper Longman III and Dr. Mark Glanville.  If this has interested you and you are a pastor or in vocational ministry you might consider the event coming up called The Gathering, which hopes to help cultivate healthy pastors.  Enjoy the conversation.  

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