Why is it important to find the right language when we talk about mental health?  How should we talk about mental health that paints a more wholistic narrative?  What is the goal for those who have a mental illness and how can the church and community  support them in this?  What does it look like to hold one another's joy amidst suffering and sadness? We discuss these questions and more with Dr. John Swinton.  We hope you enjoy!

If this conversation peaked your interest, John Swinton and Daniel Whitehead are teaching a  course this J-term, called "Seeking Sanctuary, Finding Shalom: Love, Community, and the Lived Experience of Mental Health Challenges". 

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